Acoustic Slate kits for download - and thoughts on making beats in NS2

edited February 15 in General chat

Here's a couple of acoustic drum slate kits, these are based on free kits available online. I'll post some more as and when I create them.

1:

Big Mono Slate Kit

And here's a sample of the kit in action, with some additional compression and reverb:

Big Mono Beat - When The Levee Breaks

This kit is based on the free Big Mono kit from Analogue Drums, you can support them by buying some of their very reasonably priced drum kits, which can easily be imported into Slate (with velocity layers etc).

The Big Mono kit has several variations on the snare mapped directly to pads to make up for the lack or round robin samples in Slate. Each drum has 3 velocity layers.


2:

Jazz Kit

A sample of this kit in action:

Jazz Kit beat

This is sampled from the Drum Loops HD app, which I really love (it has some great beats you can sample and use in your tracks). This kit doesn't have as many velocity layers but I have mapped variations on the pads, and when played with varied velocities it still sounds great.

Comments

  • So I own many drum apps on iOS, and beats are always the foundation of any music I make so I've spent a lot of time messing around with drum apps. I tend to prefer acoustic drums to electronic ones but I think the discussion applies to all genres of music.

    I think NS2 is absolutely awesome as an environment for creating beats and rhythms, I love Slate and I especially love the sequencer, because it allows you to create variations and changes really effortlessly.

    There's plenty of great drum apps on iOS, from DrumPerfect Pro to Patterning, the Lumbeat apps, Drum Session, iSpark and GarageBand. In all of these apps you can create great beats, with variations etc... The problem is always that it's a real pain getting from these apps to a DAW. Sequencing within the drum app is usually easy, but then syncing that with an arrangement in another app like Auria or Cubasis is a pain. The only way to avoid that is to use an all-in-one environment like Gadget or GarageBand, or sequence in your DAW.

    NS2 has the combination of a great sequencer and a great drum sampler, and this looks to me the best environment for creating beats either for final mixing in NS2 itself, or easy export to Auria. I'm really happy with this because I can sequence and arrange beats so easily, it's great.

    One stand-out feature is how easy it is to create new kits in Slate - compared to other apps (I'm looking at you DrumPerfect Pro) making a kit in Slate is really fast. 3 velocity layers that you can blend between is just about right IMO.

    But to make NS2 even better there are still a handful of features I think it needs, so that the workflow and the end result shine over all the other apps:

    1) Velocity-sensitive pads. Ideally along the vertical axis, just like the single-pad view, but also available in the 16 pad view. At the moment I workaround this by using the pads in Xequence, but it would be much better if I could do this all directly in NS2. Having velocity variation is essential to creating natural sounding beats.

    2) Round-robin samples in Slate. Again this is essential if you want to avoid that machine-gun sound. particularly on snare drums. For now I workaround this simply by importing multiple snares to multiple pads, and varying which pad I hit, but real round-robin samples are essential in a drum sequencer IMO.

    3) Realtime (non-destructive) swing. On drum machines you can set swing interactively and listen in realtime how that affects the beat. This makes it much easier to find just the right swing setting. You can also do this in GarageBand with it's non-destructive quantize and in Auria with non-destructive groove templates. In NS2 swing (and quantize) can only be applied destructively, and you can't listen to the results in realtime, so finding the right swing setting is a difficult and laborious start/stop process. I realise this is probably not easy to implement, but it would make using swing much more useful, because at the moment it's a bit of a guessing game.

  • edited February 13

    Great kits, thanks for your effort and sharing your patches and banks !!

    Realtime (non-destructive) swing.

    you mean "quantize" feature in sequencer which has now just visual overview how notes will be shifted after applying ? Audio feedback during tweakimg is on todo list ;-)

    For now i use method apply - undo - apply again - undo.. not ideal but usually (thanks to visual feedback during tweaking) after 2-3 iterations i'm satisfied

  • @dendy said:
    Audio feedback during tweakimg is on todo list ;-)

    Good to hear that!

  • Here's another Slate kit, based on the free MegaReaper kit, this one has 3 velocity layers for every drum and some snare variations mapped to pads:

    MegaReaper kit

    And here's what it sounds like:

    MegaReaper Beat - Honky Tonk

  • @richardyot nice work. Thanks!

  • Awesome. Thanks for making these!

  • edited February 14

    Another Slate kit:

    60s Drum Kit

    This is based on the free 60s kit from DrumDrops. It has 3 velocity layers and some snare variations. You can support them by buying their very reasonably priced kits, the Single Hit packs are perfect for Slate because they come with 3 velocity layers for each drum, and they're only about £12 on average - a bargain. I particularly recommend the Modern Folk Kit, it comes with variants for sticks, brushes and rods and sounds great.

    This 60s kit is perfect for the funky drummer vibe, the original Funky Drummer and Amen Break loops date from the 60s and have this bright woody sound found on this kit. Add some compression, reverb, and a bit of dirt and you can create your own gritty and funky loops.

    Here is a sample:

    60s Kit sample

  • T> @richardyot said:

    Another Slate kit:

    60s Drum Kit

    This is based on the free 60s kit from DrumDrops. It has 3 velocity layers and some snare variations. You can support them by buying their very reasonably priced kits, the Single Hit packs are perfect for Slate because they come with 3 velocity layers for each drum, and they're only about £12 on average - a bargain. I particularly recommend the Modern Folk Kit, it comes with variants for sticks, brushes and rods and sounds great.

    This 60s kit is perfect for the funky drummer vibe, the original Funky Drummer and Amen Break loops date from the 60s and have this bright woody sound found on this kit. Add some compression, reverb, and a bit of dirt and you can create your own gritty and funky loops.

    Here is a sample:

    60s Kit sample

    Another winner! Nice job! Your kits have a really nice sound to them.

  • yeah, thanks for your efforts!

  • Two new Slate kits, there are based on the free Easy Rider kit by Michael Kingston:

    Easy Rider version 1

    Easy Rider version 2

    There are 3 velocity layers for most samples (except the crash cymbals which have 2). It's a polite acoustic kit, suitable for a more laid-back vibe.

    Here is a sample of v2 in action

  • @richardyot said:
    Two new Slate kits, there are based on the free Easy Rider kit by Michael Kingston:

    Easy Rider version 1

    Easy Rider version 2

    There are 3 velocity layers for most samples (except the crash cymbals which have 2). It's a polite acoustic kit, suitable for a more laid-back vibe.

    Here is a sample of v2 in action

    Nice! Thanks

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